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Minesaga.

This post is a post regarding Minesaga 1.0 and 2.0. Please read the FULL thread before commenting, thanks.

So I don't like how Minesaga changed. Everything changes which is good so things stay fresh,new and exciting. However there are not always only good changes.

My Problem With Minesaga:

Pay2Win. It seems to be a big part of most Minecraft Servers and even Triple A Titles (Earlier Version of Battlefront 2 *cough cough*), which I'm 'OK' with. But I don't like how things turned on the Free 2 Play side. Minesaga 2.0 removed A LOT of Free 2 Play features which helped people to actually be able to get into is top without a 20 man team or like 26 Hours grinding a day.

Changes I highly disagree with:

Where's the point in removing the No. 1 Island Level income for F2P? With that I mean the old /warp mine, where people could use their Multiblock Picks (Which gave them a use) to mine island level blocks. It was a great way to keep the server active and people could actually actively grind island levels. I really miss that and it makes the server a LOT less Free 2 Play friendly, since I remember getting is top 9 for a short time in December last year.
Nowadays, you mine 1 Hour for coal and all you get is 50k from selling coal. I can get that from my daily /delivery without doing anything at all. You also get some mine crates which are bugged as hell. I mean they are only availabe for a specific time (which isnt noted anywhere).

Point Spawners:
Like what were you even thinking? People will buy Advanced Crates and Fly Perks from them? No ofc not, like the WHOLE Tab List upgraded from Sorcerer > Mage. A lot of people will disagree with adding the old mine or making the server less pay 2 win, because 'minesaga money how?!?!?!?!?!?!?' but have you actually thought about how much money they through out of the window with giving basically everybody access to the 2nd best rank on the realm? This spawner made absolutely no sense to me when you added it. People also got all Hopper Extensions, Fast Place and all other Perm Perks now.

Enderframe Spawners:
Why. Just why would you add a spawner which forces people to actually put even more alts up, not only to AFK those spawners but also to stack block those
Endframes.

Removing Sponge from Gens:
Like don't get my wrong, i hated how every is top island lagged so hard because all of the minions but maybe you should have replaced it with a Sponge Gen which would be obtainable F2P

Things you should consider to change:


Endframe Spawners:

I would remove blockstack for E-Frames, which isnt really neccesary tho. Simply give Endframes a way higher value (Higher than Beacons) but make them way rarer. This will allow people to store those in a normal size storage system and then blockstack/place those down manually.

Point Spawners:
Well actually idk what to do about that. You messed it up with the ranks but I suggest you should remove Point Spawners. Just add another way to get points maybe through /warp mine which would encourage people to mine in maybe even the old mine if you would change that.

Store Changes:
Some things offered on the store make literally no sense. Like who would EVER even CONSIDER buying an Explosive Pick, not even for a cent.
And minions: who would buy a minion nowadays, you only need 1 for your 5000000000k Blaze Spawner farm.
Horse And Cat Creatures? What the fuck is that like 90% of the people probs dont even know what a Horse Creatures Does.
Sell Wands for 1.25 USD? Okay buddy.


Ending:

I dont want Minesaga to die out bc they dont make enough money. But what is happening here atm is following:

When I played back then in 1.0 Minesaga used to have 3000 Players for a reason. Those 3000 Players were like 2300 Real Players, rest was ALTs.
Nowadays the server is 100% P2W (yea B00000m dont even respond to this with your grINd2WiN team) and only 2000 Players online of whicha re maybe 1000 real players or even less. Western used to be FULL and you had to QUEUE. Youtubers quit the server, maybe they were bored bc of the lack of updates in 2.0 so far (ik you are planning something but thats way too late now). I dont think you should revert the whole server, but bring back the old sprite on the server, and at least 1% F2P.

I really hope you guys change things to the right direction in the next season and next major update.

Peace N' Ink, real_squido
 

Brokenjimmeh_

Well-known member
Specialist
Wanted
Triceratops
Mage
Baron
The only "p2w thing" is literally permanent creatures, tags, condensed wand, boosters. You can get the rest of the stuffs thru bosses, pointshops. However i do agree with you, about minesaga 1.0 was more fun than minesaga 2.0
 
What about packages tho at the beginning? They make the biggest difference. Also Minesaga fucked up with Green Ranks.
 

xTuoyu

Well-known member
Tyrannosaurus
Specialist
Earl
Mage
Venom
Buckaroo
nah we got island top 1 on seasonal first week no p2w
 

Dwoof

Moderation Team
Staff member
Specialist
Wanted
Triceratops
Earl
Mage
What about packages tho at the beginning? They make the biggest difference. Also Minesaga fucked up with Green Ranks.
Yeah, I agree, Green Rank is way too good to just give out, if I'm being honest, /pointshop should not give anything higher than Purple Rank.
 

KiterBry

Member
Saga
Wizard
Paladin
If you don't want to use eframes or emen spawners, don't use them. Just like the /buy, why would you complain? It is still possible to work your way up to island top without paying to win, it just requires a lot of hard work and grit to pull it off. P2w is just an easier way out (coming from a player that has never invested a single penny in this server) and doesn't count for everything. A player that has a permanent penguin creature does not have a big advantage over a player that uses the temporary ones that can be obtained by crates. Again, it requires some work and imagination to get around some stuff but there is no reason to go off on this rant about how the whole server is P2w. Keep in mind some people don't do that, thanks.
 

KiterBry

Member
Saga
Wizard
Paladin
And those lovely /warp mine crates should appear the first half hour after the mine is reset
 
But in order to keep is top, you have to lol
 

ph0ne

Well-known member
Saga
Commander
Thanos
Mage
Outlaw
Velociraptor
Viscount
nice , i agree
 

TheYeebrew

Well-known member
Bruh you say you want to get is top 1, but you are not willing to spend money either. How is this server meant to survive if they aren't making a profit.

There needs to be some sort of p2w, they aren't a charity. If you were to check Gullible's Twitter, they have given out over 50k USD in is top 1 prizes.
 
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KiterBry

Member
Saga
Wizard
Paladin
Bruh you say you want to get is top 1, but you are not willing to spend money either. How is this server meant to survive if they aren't making a profit.

There needs to be some sort of p2w, they aren't a charity. If you were to check Gullible's Twitter, they have given out over 50k USD in is top 1 prizes.
What is the point you are making? That it would be a scam to get top 1 without paying for it? If they were to publish the amount of money they earned through all the purchases of ranks, perks, creatures and the occasional crate keys that have been bought, I expect to see a higher number than that 50k you were talking about
 

ph0ne

Well-known member
Saga
Commander
Thanos
Mage
Outlaw
Velociraptor
Viscount
Bruh you say you want to get is top 1, but you are not willing to spend money either. How is this server meant to survive if they aren't making a profit.

There needs to be some sort of p2w, they aren't a charity. If you were to check Gullible's Twitter, they have given out over 50k USD in is top 1 prizes.
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