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Bloodshed

Wqles :/

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I don't have to prove anything, you're the one claiming they lag. Anything I show will just be a FPS locked at like 500 because my PC is very powerful. Stop littering on this thread unless you're gonna get some actual evidence that this update does cause performance issues, because if it does then it needs fixing, otherwise it works fine and your just posting for the hell of it.
“ I don’t have to proof anything” Speak for yourself, many users on minesaga don’t have powerful pc’s like you, making pvp even less enjoyable.

In your opinion, why don’t you have anything to prove, because all you are doing is claiming against me with not much reasoning.
 

System

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“ I don’t have to proof anything” Speak for yourself, many users on minesaga don’t have powerful pc’s like you, making pvp even less enjoyable.

In your opinion, why don’t you have anything to prove, because all you are doing is claiming against me with not much reasoning.
I'm not the one making the claims, you are. I'm aware they don't, and yet none of them have reported any performance issues like you are claming exist, and failed to prove. For the last time, if there is noticable performance loss from this new update then collect evidence and make a bug report otherwise stop trashing this thread.
 

No_haxs_just_pro

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wtf is a fps spoofer and what would be the point of that :p
To make it look like you have a good pc and to make it look like you get better FPS than everyoje
 

Wqles :/

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I'm not the one making the claims, you are. I'm aware they don't, and yet none of them have reported any performance issues like you are claming exist, and failed to prove. For the last time, if there is noticable performance loss from this new update then collect evidence and make a bug report otherwise stop trashing this thread.
You are making claims just like me. Neither of us have evidence but you are acting like it is only a bad thing if I don’t. And for every time I “trash” the thread, you just go along with it and do the same.
 

Gullible

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You are making claims just like me. Neither of us have evidence but you are acting like it is only a bad thing if I don’t. And for every time I “trash” the thread, you just go along with it and do the same.

System has been working on Minecraft servers for over 7 years and over the time he has learnt what does and what doesn't effect client side performance and the best way to implement things to have the best possible performance.

The only possible thing that may cause any sort of client side lag from this update would be particles from either the flame thrower or smoke bombs. However there are such few particles present during these effects that if these decrease your FPS to a point where the game is not playable, I really feel sorry for you and you should be saving up to buy a new computer rather than to buy a microphone and recording software to upload YouTube videos! (https://www.minesaga.org/threads/youtube.27669/)

Simply download optifine which gives you a lot more control over the particles and your animations or simply disable them all together, it is not hard or anything to have an argument over.
 

Wqles :/

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System has been working on Minecraft servers for over 7 years and over the time he has learnt what does and what doesn't effect client side performance and the best way to implement things to have the best possible performance.

The only possible thing that may cause any sort of client side lag from this update would be particles from either the flame thrower or smoke bombs. However there are such few particles present during these effects that if these decrease your FPS to a point where the game is not playable, I really feel sorry for you and you should be saving up to buy a new computer rather than to buy a microphone and recording software to upload YouTube videos! (https://www.minesaga.org/threads/youtube.27669/)

Simply download optifine which gives you a lot more control over the particles and your animations or simply disable them all together, it is not hard or anything to have an argument over.
Lot of things wrong with this.
First of all: y’all make it seem like I think system isn’t credible at all. I do not think that. I think System is a great owner and works hard for this server. But we just have disagreements on the effects of these updates. I have no hate for System.

Second: I was planning on buying the mic and stuff not for pvp, but for building. And what does me wanting to record videos on minesaga have to do with going against my opinions? I feel as if I have a decent pc. I’m speaking for many other people who can experience these lag issues, why does me buying a mic and stuff relate to me explaining the lag issues with the Bloodshed update?

Third: “Just download optifine” Optifine is the most popular module on minecraft, used by hundreds of thousands of players some of which who play your server. It helps FPS and particles a lot, but you have to keep in mind it doesn’t solve lag completely

Fourth: “It is not hard to not have an argument about this” This seems targeted at me, which is understandable. However, take a look at the thread to see that System has done just as much as me to dissolve the argument: nothing. You need to look at both sides.
 

Gullible

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Second: I was planning on buying the mic and stuff not for pvp, but for building. And what does me wanting to record videos on minesaga have to do with going against my opinions? I feel as if I have a decent pc. I’m speaking for many other people who can experience these lag issues, why does me buying a mic and stuff relate to me explaining the lag issues with the Bloodshed update?
My point is, if you can record a YouTube video at good enough frames for it to be watchable then you will have absolutely no issues with any lag with this update.

As for other people, stop speaking on their behalf when no one has voiced their concerns with it at all.
 

Mena

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My point is, if you can record a YouTube video at good enough frames for it to be watchable then you will have absolutely no issues with any lag with this update.

As for other people, stop speaking on their behalf when no one has voiced their concerns with it at all.
Firstly I would like to point out the way you made your point originally seemed quite immature (Save up instead of spending money on a mic) bruhh that’s a low blow.

Secondly I don’t think anyone needs to make any sort of justification as it’s obviously clear that you guys are just going to go back and forth with all different points. Like Idk who the adults are here but surely you don’t need hug and a pat on the back to say you’re right. If so well I don’t like hugs and Dam this is some real bloodshed of drama you got the name perfect, that’s some talent.

Lot of things wrong with this.
First of all: y’all make it seem like I think system isn’t credible at all. I do not think that. I think System is a great owner and works hard for this server. But we just have disagreements on the effects of these updates. I have no hate for System.

Second: I was planning on buying the mic and stuff not for pvp, but for building. And what does me wanting to record videos on minesaga have to do with going against my opinions? I feel as if I have a decent pc. I’m speaking for many other people who can experience these lag issues, why does me buying a mic and stuff relate to me explaining the lag issues with the Bloodshed update?

Third: “Just download optifine” Optifine is the most popular module on minecraft, used by hundreds of thousands of players some of which who play your server. It helps FPS and particles a lot, but you have to keep in mind it doesn’t solve lag completely

Fourth: “It is not hard to not have an argument about this” This seems targeted at me, which is understandable. However, take a look at the thread to see that System has done just as much as me to dissolve the argument: nothing. You need to look at both sides.
All I have to say is chill. Sharing your opinion is one thing explaining it is another. But going on about it does nothing? Well does it? Idk if you haven’t noticed but it only took a few thread comments to realise this isn’t going to go anywhere or was that my common sense kicking in.

Also responding to this proves my point, so feel free too! You already lost. (When I say you lost I mean you wasted time)
 
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Wqles :/

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My point is, if you can record a YouTube video at good enough frames for it to be watchable then you will have absolutely no issues with any lag with this update.

As for other people, stop speaking on their behalf when no one has voiced their concerns with it at all.
I never said I could actually record videos. I’m just looking for equipment as I’m CONSIDERING it. I have no clue if my frame rate for it will be good enough (with no pvp it probably will)

And all I’m saying is that I guarantee there are people on the server who do not have great computers; not everyone can afford one. Keep in mind your server has 1000+ players on at a time that fit many demographics
 

Wqles :/

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Firstly I would like to point out the way you made your point originally seemed quite immature (Save up instead of spending money on a mic) bruhh that’s a low blow.

Secondly I don’t think anyone needs to make any sort of justification as it’s obviously clear that you guys are just going to go back and forth with all different points. Like Idk who the adults are here but surely you don’t need hug and a pat on the back to say you’re right. If so well I don’t like hugs and Dam this is some real bloodshed of drama you got the name perfect, that’s some talent.



All I have to say is chill. Sharing your opinion is one thing explaining it is another. But going on about it does nothing? Well does it? Idk if you haven’t noticed but it only took a few thread comments to realise this isn’t going to go anywhere or was that my common sense kicking in.

Also responding to this proves my point, so feel free too! You already lost. (When I say you lost I mean you wasted time)
Also, “You already lost” is just a cocky statement from you trying to dissolve the argument. Your common sense here is low, we need to settle this to a point, not make you irrationally sound like the “winner” here. This conversation should not be about winners and losers, and your lack of maturity says otherwise. I’m not the most mature, but I sure can point you out.
 

Mena

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Also, “You already lost” is just a cocky statement from you trying to dissolve the argument. Your common sense here is low, we need to settle this to a point, not make you irrationally sound like the “winner” here. This conversation should not be about winners and losers, and your lack of maturity says otherwise. I’m not the most mature, but I sure can point you out.
Hahahahaha and you still keep going. What is cocky about you continuing to argue a pointless conversation. I wasn’t trying to dissolve anything only you can display maturity of letting go of things.

Interpret it as you will but I defended you and also told you to chill out and use your brain instead of taking all this weird denial out on everyone else. Be realistic you’re wasting your time and now I’m wasting my time trying to get you to realise that you’re just going to go in circles. No one is a winner when there’s drama lol. Yeah I wouldn’t consider myself mature but you’re very quick to judge.
 
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System

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I never said I could actually record videos. I’m just looking for equipment as I’m CONSIDERING it. I have no clue if my frame rate for it will be good enough (with no pvp it probably will)

And all I’m saying is that I guarantee there are people on the server who do not have great computers; not everyone can afford one. Keep in mind your server has 1000+ players on at a time that fit many demographics
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. All those users have to do is turn off particles and they will see their FPS loss caused by particles return, which we have already discussed and acknowledged. You've then gone ahead and make the false claim that the other additions cause lag, which they don't.

Right now it's your claim that they do cause lag, with no evidence against my claim that they don't cause lag, with many years of experience of programming additions to the game, and the fact that not a single player had reported any lag from the new additions, aside from yourself, whom is still yet to file a formal bug report and just posting trash on this thread.

Finally, you can claim I'm trashing it back but you're wrong, I'm simply disputing your unproven lies. If you have evidence, then make a bug report otherwise stop responding to this thread about it, consider yourself warned.
 

Wqles :/

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Hahahahaha and you still keep going. What is cocky about you continuing to argue a pointless conversation. I wasn’t trying to dissolve anything only you can display maturity of letting go of things.

Interpret it as you will but I defended you and also told you to chill out and use your brain instead of taking all this weird denial out on everyone else. Be realistic you’re wasting your time and now I’m wasting my time trying to get you to realise that you’re just going to go in circles.
This is not a pointless conversation, neither do you have anything meaningful to bring to it. I respect it, but it’s not needed.
 

Mena

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This is not a pointless conversation, neither do you have anything meaningful to bring to it. I respect it, but it’s not needed.
I have nothing meaningful so what you say does. So you’re saying that my opinion doesn’t matter oh no :( I’m like you. HEY I respect it but you’re meaningless. Btw I’m starting to just mock you because it’s amusing and also you said I was immature so I gotta live up to it. So if you’re going to waste my oxygen, let me feel meaningful on a Minecraft server 😭
 
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Wqles :/

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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. All those users have to do is turn off particles and they will see their FPS loss caused by particles return, which we have already discussed and acknowledged. You've then gone ahead and make the false claim that the other additions cause lag, which they don't.

Right now it's your claim that they do cause lag, with no evidence against my claim that they don't cause lag, with many years of experience of programming additions to the game, and the fact that not a single player had reported any lag from the new additions, aside from yourself, whom is still yet to file a formal bug report and just posting trash on this thread.

Finally, you can claim I'm trashing it back but you're wrong, I'm simply disputing your unproven lies. If you have evidence, then make a bug report otherwise stop responding to this thread about it, consider yourself warned.
“Thanks for pointing out the obvious” If you’d pay attention to gullibles response ( which you didn’t) you’d see he’d ask.

This seems like a good place to end off, seeing as you’d like to flee this by pulling out the warn card.

Best regards, Wqles
 

Mena

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“Thanks for pointing out the obvious” If you’d pay attention to gullibles response ( which you didn’t) you’d see he’d ask.

This seems like a good place to end off, seeing as you’d like to flee this by pulling out the warn card.

Best regards, Wqles
Guys! he had to have the last say! What a tough man. I mean it I appreciate the energy. :( shame that he’s ending it off. I really love a hate love relationship. This could of been a cult classic tv show love triangle for real.

Gn :)
 
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